I Can Talk to the Internal Organs-Chapter 163 - 136: Returning from the Brink of Death
Tang Yi was greatly shocked.
He felt that his previous understanding seemed to be entirely wrong.
Even though Lu Jiu said he wanted him to discern right from wrong, instinctively, after hearing Lu Jiu’s words, he felt what Lu Jiu said was right.
"Brother Lu, does that mean as long as I grasp the Yin Yang Five Elements, studying anatomy doesn’t make much difference to me, whether I learn it or not?"
Lu Jiu laughed, "It’s okay to study it; it’s not difficult. But you need to know what core knowledge you must grasp and not get misled by anatomy."
Tang Yi nodded, then looked towards Deng Haiming on the right side of the stage, "That person, would you say he’s been misled?"
Lu Jiu couldn’t help but chuckle. At the same time, Huang Fusheng on stage finally spoke.
"Do you not believe in the Yin Yang Five Elements?"
Deng Haiming said, "I just don’t blind believe."
Huang Fusheng said, "Then what do you think the Yin Yang Five Elements are?"
Deng Haiming said, "The Yin Yang Five Elements were originally Daoist School’s philosophical thought, later becoming the basic theory of traditional Chinese medicine. But I find this concept too abstract, entirely metaphysical, not grounded at all, far less intuitive than anatomy. Although I learn it, fundamentally I don’t believe it."
Huang Fusheng said, "Good, thank you for your honesty. I know there are quite a few Chinese medicine practitioners like you now, not exactly resistant to Yin Yang Five Elements but also not fully believing from a materialistic point of view."
"This might be why traditional Chinese medicine now can only cure diseases but not treat people."
"Actually, the Yin Yang Five Elements aren’t wholly metaphysical. The so-called Yin Yang is a simple materialist philosophy used to describe all dichotomous and unified objects and phenomena in nature. The Five Elements further describe this: things and phenomena with the qualities or actions of growth, rising, smoothing, and soothing represent wood; those with warmth, rising, brightness represent fire; those with qualities of generation, bearing, receiving represent soil; those with qualities of descending, executing, consolidating represent metal; and those with qualities of moisturizing, moving downwards, cooling represent water."
"These were all natural laws summarized by the ancients observing the changes of heaven and earth. Mountains, rivers, birds, and beasts all follow this law. As a part of nature, humans, whether in themselves or their Five Viscera, are within this law. Many don’t believe in the Yin Yang Five Elements because, at the root, they don’t know it’s the law of heaven and earth changes, or how those changes affect humans."
"However, not understanding and then not believing is a wrong viewpoint, in my opinion. For anything, believe first then act; question it only if proved wrong—that’s a scientific attitude. Not understanding yet not believing, I think that’s superstition. Do you agree with my viewpoint?"
Deng Haiming lowered his head momentarily, picked up the microphone again, "Elder Huang, I admit that in understanding Chinese medicine, I’m far inferior to you. But I don’t think the Yin Yang Five Elements, summarized by the ancients, are absolute rules. Given the productive forces at that time, without scientific instruments, they couldn’t observe the full picture of nature at all. That means the Yin Yang Five Elements theory isn’t universal, maybe useful in the past but not necessarily now."
Hearing this, Lu Jiu couldn’t help but frown.
Isn’t this just for the sake of arguing?
Failing to articulate theoretically, he starts denying the theory’s reasonableness from the root, even almost labeling the ancients as backward.
Is technology really the only way to discover natural laws?
From Deng Haiming’s words, Lu Jiu basically concluded that he only knew the surface of Chinese medicine and had no understanding of its core.
Now, Elder Huang was undoubtedly playing music to a cow.
However, he seemed unbothered, instead engaging in further conversation with Deng Haiming, who maintained a nihilistic and self-assured stance.
"Oh? Then let me ask you, who discovered that the moon causes tides?" Huang Fusheng asked.
"Of course, it was Newton," Deng Haiming blurted out.
"In the Eastern Han Dynasty, Huiji Shangyu native Wang Chong wrote an article titled ’Lunheng’, which stated, ’The rise of the tide follows the waxing and waning of the moon,’ meaning that ocean tides are influenced by the moon’s phases. Was Newton born in AD 59?" Huang Fusheng said.
Deng Haiming’s eyes flickered as he suddenly remembered something, "Though Newton wasn’t the first to propose this viewpoint, he was the first to prove the tidal phenomenon using universal gravitation. That must be correct."
"But what does that have to do with the ancients observing nature? We’re clearly discussing why the ancients, without scientific instruments, couldn’t observe the full picture of natural laws," Huang Fusheng said.
"But the tides are just one part of all natural phenomena and don’t represent all phenomena," Deng Haiming said.
"Hehehe, and what about the twenty-four solar terms?" Huang Fusheng said.
"..." Deng Haiming was speechless.
The precision of the twenty-four solar terms hadn’t had a flaw in thousands of years.
Even with such advanced modern technology, it’s incomprehensible how the twenty-four solar terms were determined.
This point was clear to Deng Haiming and many others.
At this point in the discussion, Deng Haiming knew he couldn’t refute Huang Fusheng.
"My apologies, Elder Huang, I was superficial."
Seeing Deng Haiming’s sincere attitude, Huang Fusheng smiled, "No problem. My intent in saying these things isn’t to refute you but to help you understand that the Yin Yang Five Elements in Chinese medicine are really the great medical path. The deeper you delve, the more intricate it becomes. As Chinese medicine practitioners, we should possess this confidence. The ancients observed the times, established calendars, surveyed geography, recognized grains, tried hundreds of herbs, and wrote classic formulas... These countless crystallizations of wisdom are the wealth left to us by our ancestors and still benefit us today."
"We are all heirs to Chinese medicine. If learning some science makes us see our ancestors as ignorant, then we’re simply blinded by individual leaves. If possible, I hope you read ancient texts, where many ancient sages’ wisdom resides. Understanding them would mean truly entering the door of Chinese medicine, and your future achievements would be immense."
Had it been an ordinary person facing Deng Haiming’s repeated nitpicking behavior, they might have lost their temper long ago.
But Huang Fusheng not only remained unfazed, he also encouraged Deng Haiming to be confident.
This magnanimity earned the sincere admiration of those in the audience.
"Elder Huang, how powerful can Chinese medicine be at its peak?" Deng Haiming suddenly asked.
This question immediately piqued the curiosity of many people.
Everyone present was studying Chinese medicine, and the deeper they delved, the more they felt how difficult it was.
Regarding what extent Chinese medicine can ultimately reach, nobody really had a particularly clear concept.
It’s like all those online claims that one Chinese doctor can cure cancer, another can cure diabetes, yet in reality, you never see any.
After all, in Chinese medicine, it’s rare to see something like in Western medicine where a new surgery prompts a research topic; excellent Chinese medicine cures are cures, and typically don’t spread around. Even if it did, the same prescription for another patient might have no effect at all.
So in such a situation, that’s why even among Chinese medicine practitioners, it’s almost impossible to know what level each one is at or what ultimate extent Chinese medicine can reach unless witnessed firsthand.
Huang Fusheng, upon hearing the question, let out a chuckle and slowly uttered four words.
"Revive the dead!"
What!?
Everyone was shocked!
They hadn’t expected Huang Fusheng to say something so fantastical.
All of a sudden, murmurs began spreading through the audience.
"Elder Huang must be joking."
"I feel the same way."
"Reviving the dead is a bit too far-fetched."
"Indeed."
"I’ve only ever seen this in novels; honestly, I don’t believe Chinese medicine can reach this point."
"I don’t believe it either."
"..."
Tang Yi stared dumbfoundedly at Huang Fusheng on stage, then turned to Lu Jiu, "Brother Lu, do you believe it?"
Lu Jiu said, "It should be true."
Previously, he had heard Master Li Huo’s interview, where he also mentioned that renowned ancient physicians had the ability to revive the dead.
Now Huang Fusheng echoed those words; given their capabilities, Lu Jiu felt there was at least some degree of credibility.
But until he reached this level himself, Lu Jiu remained skeptical.
"???"
Tang Yi looked at Lu Jiu with a bewildered expression.
He hadn’t expected the previously earnest Lu Jiu, who had been explaining Chinese medicine, to suddenly delve into the fantastical.
